Re: Can anybody explain the city of Fort Wayne's lack of interest in Headwater's Junction?
Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:02 pm
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Quite to the contrary, I believe that is exactly what they are doing.
The city put out the criteria. Even they admitted that the HWJ proposal was the only one that met their criteria. That's them talking, not me. If you invite people to play your game, and they play by the rules you set out, should you not be rewarded for winning the game? As for the vehicle traffic past North River, what other project has even been discussed that relies on that the way HWJ would? A hospital? No. An arena? No. Housing? No. Once again, if the city is so dead set against having HWJ at North River, what are they doing to try to find a suitable alternative to offer? This is economic development and tourism, things the city claims to be all for. If I'm the mayor, I'm trying to find a way to make this work. I been an Allen County resident my entire 52 years, and you learn a few things along the way. Among those, is that if you are not part of the right clique, you're swimming upstream all the way. Evidently, the primary backers of HWJ are not in the right clique, or the city would be falling all over themselves to make it happen.Hotbox wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:35 amQuite to the contrary, I believe that is exactly what they are doing.
I'm having a hard time following your logic that the City is obligated to accept the offer on the table just because it's the only one. This isn't like a construction project where they are obligated to accept low bid, is it?
Perhaps what you consider to be a "qualified" offer, and what the City considers to be a "qualified" offer, are two different animals? Just a thought.
You're quite right on the final point, because this project is much bigger than the 765. Having the 765 is like having your own "Elvis," and everybody knows who Elvis is. They may not know his bass player or drummer, but the attractions that will inhabit and operate at HWJ include all of the other members of "the band." In this case, an 0-6-0, a 2-8-2, an SD9, potentially a tank engine, passenger cars, freight cars and other items that are part of our strategic acquisition process.Hotbox wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:52 amI could be wrong about this, but also I believe the Society not having it's own local excursion track FOR THE 765 limits the appeal to the community of the whole package.
The Society are imagining the 765 as a centerpiece "pull" to their operation, yet how often will that be more than a static display for local audiences? Riding the zoo tram past a stationary 765 and explaining to the kids that "they only run that 250 miles away from here" kind of fails (IMO) the "catalytic and transformative" litmus test. And I do suspect that the decision makers are astute enough to have figured that one out.
This was before my time as a board member, let alone Vice President and it's times have changed. I don't think it's necessarily fair that you are recalling a grudge from 2006 during the test run without acknowledging the complete about-face we've taken with regards to letting people know as much as humanly possible about the 765's moves, right down to installing a GPS transponder on the engine and having dedicated (and very popular) channels to broadcast this information. We publish a monthly member's email blast, weekly updates to a members-only section of our website and I make sure to send an email update each time the 765 leaves the property. This doesn't mean the railroads are encouraging that we post this kind of information and one of them has specifically asked us to not be too specific, but there's a difference between broadcasting it on social media and making it available "privately" to supporters.Hotbox wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:59 pm
The FWRHS offered "updates" as a perk to becoming a supporting member. They renegged on that offer when they chose to not inform people of the test runs. They may very well have had sterling reasons for their covertness, but that does nothing to change what they promised versus what they did.
If there was a book on how people could get things done in this community, I'd happily buy all the copies, but there isn't and this project is not as simple as "well, it's a baseball field..." and I wish it was. It's like trying to sell an octopus one leg at a time. I'll happily accept the PT Barnum comparison, but if you review the comments/endorsement listed in the community support link above, I am by far not the only believer, especially when you have business owners buying up places on Wells Street just to be near the project -- that even amazes me!I think that is 90%. I think the other 10% of is that the articles Kelly writes for the papers sound just a little too "P.T. Barnum" ish to me...I think when you read someone who is so over the top as he often is, it naturally puts your tail between your legs. And I don't mean that to sound as an insult.
So does that mean that HWJ would become the property owner, and FWRHS will be it's tenant, or would HWJ be leasing the property and then subleasing to FWRHS?